Lucija Mikas

Empathy through Movement: Interview with Dancer Lucija Mikas

Adina Asbeck Insights, Interview Leave a Comment

“I think, that people can learn empathy through dance”, dancer Lucija Mikas said. She began her dance career at the age of eleven at the John Cranko School in Stuttgart and quit her classic ballet education there, after four years of hard training. What she learned during this strict dance lessons, confirms established clichés as she says “Discipline is definitely necessary, because classic ballet is on the same level with ice skating and gymnastics. To perform great accomplishments, unbelievable discipline and forces are required. Looking back, I don’t regret going to that school, because I captured a kind of discipline I can use for other areas.” Even if Mikas is very grateful for this experience, she realized, that this path was not her destiny. She turned towards contemporary dance, also because in that area talent is understood in a slightly different way. “There, talent is measured with creativity, expression or improvisation. […] Contemporary dance is described a physical expression of ideas and emotions.” So she decided to complete her degree at the Academy for Contemporary Dance in Berlin. She worked within several projects until she decided to move to Croatia, where she fell in love and has lived there ever since. A very limited cultural range and the lack of infrastructure in her professional world forced her to improve her skills and to organize her own projects. “That’s how how I started to teach myself how to write projects, which still benefits me greatly. I created an infrastructure, which on the one hand is an advantage for the teenagers and their projects and on the other hand generates an infrastructure for people who live out of town. Thats how we can apply for resources together, so that we are able to work on a professional level. After all those years, I can now say, that I created a network I can work with. For four years I now teach at a school as a dance teacher where I train contemporary dance.” What she learned at a very young age through her strict dance lessons, is to have discipline and to challenge herself. We asked her, how much talent dancers have to bring with them and how much they have to revise with discipline.

“Reflection”; production: Histeria Nova 2017; choreography: Marija Šćekić; dancers: Lucija Mikas, Elvis Hodžić; photography: Srđan Babić

The Process

As diverse the disciplines of Lucija Mikas are, as universally usable is the artistic creation for her. “I don’t want to confine the process to the artistic because it cuts across all areas of life. At the beginning I have an idea or an incident. It can also be a unreflected experience out of the past, that I now confront myself with. After that I check  what I already have for the transformation and what’s missing. Then I ponder the potential of the idea, split it into segments, which I pursue and get closure.  The closure then is the implementation.”

The Idea

“First, every movement emerges as a reaction of the emotional life. Contemporary dance is seen as a physical expression of ideas and emotions,” explains Lucija Mikas during the conversation about the origin of her ideas. “I for example see a fig tree, growing out of a stone. This fig tree reminds me of my rootlessness, because I don’t see his roots. The tree seems loose and not graspable. Other than an olive tree in the garden, where one exactly knows and sees, that he belongs to this garden. Then I put myself in the trees position and can pursue various approaches. I can start with the texture of the tree and feel how the leaves are constituted or how the roots are running. The metaphor can be followed and it can be seen that the tree only has small roots and doesn’t belong there. That I can translate into my life and on my art. Out of this inner feeling I can create movement while I physically transform, what structure the tree possesses. Due to improvisation a certain movement arises as a reaction. Either I define this movement or I let it loose. I can declare the freedom of the structure of a piece, so that it is being completely improvised or that it follows a determined structure with constituted movements.”

Der Froschkönig


The Creation

Even if the result of Mikas’ work is defined by structured procedures, the path to get there is characterized by the act in the moment, by playful improvisation and she isolates this procedure from focus and success orientation. “Due to my sensibility, concentration is a word, that doesn’t harmonize with improvisation. For me concentration has something to do with focus to do something willingly, which emerges out of a thought of success. Improvisation is better described by letting go. Even if one is concentrated, one stays open for influences. Maybe it’s a paradox and is similar to meditation, someone wants to do and absolutely wants to achieve. Most often, the fault is, that one is too restricted on the delivery and tries to absolve those things step by step. Basically, improvisation appears always and in every step, but if you emanate from a classical process then above all, at the beginning. Of course improvisation can be found on stage. I enjoy provoking something in a person and especially the surprise effect, that in every person you trigger something else. On the one hand, I think, that everyone on stage is desires applause. On the other hand nearly all artists state, that they feel the urge to do their art out of themselves. And I’m not an exception, but most important for me is the process, because I experience it as liberating.” A release, that also grows out of the collaboration with other people. For example the contact with other artists, the testing and experiencing of movement and the influence of another body for the own physical feeling. ”Dance has to do a lot with empathy. Contact with the outside world is being absorbed by the scences. Through a touch, the opponent can be experienced at once. Often much more direct than through eye contact, acoustic or scent, because the information is being sensed with the whole body. If I touch something hot, I feel it immediately. After collecting experiences and the analysis of a topic there is the synthesis. Little by little I put together individual fragments and finalize details. Thereby it’s helpful if someone from the outside has a look upon your work. In my case, that can be a director, an acquaintance or a colleague, who gives me feedback.” Furthermore she talks about the necessity of constructive critique to be aware of oneself in a new light and to evolve. “Doing ballet, I also learned to be grateful for constructive critique, because it is extremely important. In my opinion, other dancers are too sensitive and take critique personally too fast. with those people it’s also hard to work with. I adduce my pupils very fast, to be open minded and objective with their feedback. At the same time, it’s very important to be righteous and fair and to be mindful of not attacking someone personally.” If all of that works out, one day there is the performance in front of an audience. Thereby, Mikas clearly refuses the concept of perfection when she says, “It’s never really done. The need of the performance is a goal you work toward, for that moment your work is done, but can be completely different in a month. Today, we have every opportunity in forms of video and recordings, so that we can file everything, but dance is not determined for eternity. That’s as well reflected in the philosophy and way of live of dance, that you live from one moment into the other. Only if you live in the moment, you can really live the dance. It’s the art of the moment. […] There is no security. Terms like fault or failure only exist if you allow them. I experience failure when you don’t remain true to yourself and if you agree to a compromise that you’re barely willing to make.”

Read the full Interview. (German only)

Picture Sources (in order of appearance):

Florian Hammerich, Srđan Babić, Unbekannt, Florian Hammerich,

Interview: Dirk Dobiéy, Transcription: Eugen Buss; Blog: Adina Asbeck, Dirk Dobiéy; Translation: Adina Asbeck, Stephanie Barnes



Art of Innovation: London and Berlin Workshops

Dirk Dobiéy Education, News Leave a Comment

“When it’s time for something different it has to be different”, says Age of Artists member Stephanie Barnes. Together with Phil Dodson and Doug Shaw, kindly sponsored by Herman Miller, Betahaus, and The Wesley Hotel Stephanie is co-facilitating a series of interactive and practical organizational and personal development workshops: The Art of Innovation.

Innovation and creativity, powerful skills we need for differentiation purposes in business, and to which we are attracted as humans. Sadly, too often we let self criticism and anxiety hold us back from being creative. In the right environment, and with the right tools and techniques, we can progress past these blocks and let creativity and innovation become a regular, useful part of our daily lives and careers.

Stephanie, Phil and Doug invite you to join them for two one-day (London) or one two-day (Berlin) workshop  of carefully yet loosely structured exploration and work, focusing on:

  • Exploring curiosity
  • Identifying and applying the creative process
  • Learning ways to come up with new ideas and overcoming creative blocks
  • Reflecting on and adapting our own creative strengths and weaknesses

Course Outcome

Through our work together, you can expect to gain improved self-confidence and resilience, and take away practical tools and ideas to help you be more curious and creative, enabling you to create better work for yourself and your team. You will take away any art works you make on the day, some good quality art materials to enable you to continue your adventures, a reading list, and some creative prompts to support your learning.

Course Details

Through years of experimentation and hard work in our knowledge management, collaborative, and artistic practices, we have uncovered some important qualities which are necessary in order to sustain innovation and creativity.

They include:

  • Curiosity…An inquiring mind
  • Resilience…Strengthening and softening
  • Reflection…Thinking time
  • Improvisation…Going with the flow
  • A sense of community…Belonging

Exploring these themes, and how we can practice and improve them, will form the basis of our time together.

The outline for the day looks like this:

  • Creativity and our organizations
  • Critical Thinking
  • Innovation
  • Competitive Advantage
  • Resilience
  • Scene Setting
  • Principles of Work
  • Making and Doing
  • Personal Example
  • Deep Work
  • Vulnerability

Group Size

Minimum: 20

Maximum: 50


London: 1-day workshop will be offered twice, June 8 and 9, 2017

Berlin: 2-day workshop offered July 4 – 5, 2017

(Berlin is a 2-day workshop to account for differences in demand/interest based on anecdotal evidence in both cities. The workshops will cover the same material, it is the depth that will vary.)

Register here or learn even more at

Your instructors

Stephanie Barnes is a painter and knowledge management consultant. She works with organizations to make better use of what they know, utilizing her strategic business knowledge, critical thinking, and creativity in the process.

Stephanie is a member of Age of Artists and she can also be found on her personal website or business presence

Philip Dodson: Coach, Mentor, Blogger, Artist, Podcaster, Coworking Space Operator, Facilitator and speaker.

Founder of the creative and inspirational coworking space @Work Hubs, co-founder of International Collaboration Day, founder of Dodson Commercial, Creator of the Deep Work Project and London Art Club Meetup.

It’s all about why we do what we do, not what we do. Life is all about stories and being able to tell our own story. Phil is in love with writing, art and other communication and how it helps collaboration, connection, ideas, self-confidence and productivity.

In a world that is sadly dominated by shallow and repetitive work, he is on a mission to help people have the environment and tools to be able to create meaningful deep work that will set us apart.

Where to find Phil: Personal blogCoworking blog, podcast and info and commercial property.

Doug Shaw : Artist, Organisational Development Consultant, Facilitator.

Doug is at his best when helping people find greater effectiveness, enjoyment and inquiry in their work. He believes together beats apart, productive beats busy, connection gives us meaning, and conversations are the bond. Curiosity is underrated. We are all artists.

Where to find Doug: Art and Organizational development.

Rob Austin

An Artist Lives in the World Like Everyone Else- Interview with Rob Austin

Dirk Dobiéy Insights, Interview Leave a Comment

Robert D. Austin is an innovation and technology management researcher and professor of Innovation and Information Technology at Ivey Business School in Canada. Together with dramaturg and emeritus professor of theatre Lee Devin he examines business innovation through the lens of art practice. Their two books Artful Making and The Soul of Design explore the striking structural similarities between theatre artistry and production and today’s business projects. For Austin, there is no doubt artistic practices are highly relevant in today’s’ business environment, and particularly “in developed economies because communication and transportation networks have become so usable and inexpensive that it devalues cost-leadership approaches to business. Many companies in many places can enter into price competition when goods move around the globe so cheaply. And there are many places you can produce for a lower cost than in developed economies because of structural advantages (e.g., lower wages in developing economies). So, if you are based in developed economies you have a structural cost disadvantage. It doesn’t really matter how good you are, you may still have trouble defeating the competition based on cost. That forces more and more companies to differentiate themselves. Business differentiation usually arises from some sort of a creative act. It involves a shake-up for you that frees you from historical patterns, habits, processes and procedures and comes up with something truly new. That is something artists are striving for and good at.”

At the same time, Austin rejects an idealistic starry-eyed view into the matter. “Especially the arts, but every creative activity, are in a kind of enriching your view or in other terms, they are good for your soul. They have a spiritual dimension but I think in my work I have veered away from pressing that too far. Partly I worry a little bit that it is a slippery slope. I think there is a certain line of logic you can encounter that kind of expects art to save the world. That’s a lot to ask. We have to be kind of careful with what we approach. I emphasize that, and don’t mean to say that it is not a real effect, but I do think it can be of overly dramatized and romanticized. I know academics that are guilty of that. They do research in what I would call arts in management. Deep down what they have at heart is a rather more romantic notion of the arts than I think most real artists have. I think artists approach their work from the standpoint that it is nourishing for them and for their soul but it is for them quite a practical matter.  My co-author was a playwright for a while and did many things in the theater. One of the things he likes to say is that writing, for him, was about putting his head into the work and keeping it down for a certain number of hours. Then do it again the next day. He was always quite skeptical on others who overly romanticized things. There are some concepts that come up into the discussion that can be dramatically romanticized. There is also a sense where some artists, in order to cultivate image and aura, cultivate a romantic notion of what they do for external consumption, but I think it has relatively little to do with what they actually do. Most of the artists I interviewed over the years working on this kind of thing, don’t try to romanticize what they do. In fact, it doesn’t mean that their project is unimportant or mundane but for them, they like to make things”, Austin comments. And he is certain that “an artist lives in the world like everyone else.”

Yet a world experienced through the four qualities of artful making allows to reconceive much of what one does along artful lines, Austin and Devin write in their first book. Those four qualities are release, collaboration, ensemble and play and while they sound not very sophisticated they represent some major differences to most established business practices. “[…M]any of the things that are expressed in these four processes are things that are not built into the reflexes of business managers who have learned to manage in a more industrial setting, where they are oriented to terms like maximizing, exploiting and value creation”, Austin clarifies. “I would say that what we are describing in our book is very much the exploration inclination. There are a lot of things in that process you would never do in a more industrial exploitation process like the whole idea of release, is not consistent with what you would try to do in a factory. There is also literature in the management research on what’s called organizational ambidexterity. Organizations are trying to do both, exploration and exploitation and are succeeding to differing degrees and we are trying to discover those companies. The decision attitude is based on logical frameworks where you focus on the machinery to choose between alternatives. The creation of entirely new attitudes like the design attitude would be much more focused on a creative act.” For Austin one major difference is the concept of emergence. “In a lot of creative processes, you don’t choose between alternatives but create the right alternative. At that point, the choice is obvious.  In the final situation of a creative act you have worked your way to an alternative through what is basically an emergent process. Many businesses are historically rooted in the decision attitude. They need to move the direction to a design attitude.” A design attitude for Austin also involves a certain resilience; an ability to define an objective but to remain open enough to end up somewhere different than originally planned. “Often when you are in a creative process you start out going from A to B but you end up at C and that’s just the nature of things. I do agree that often creative processes especially in practical settings start with an objective but there are always multiple ways of finding the objective. What distinguishes the creative processes is that the outcome of those processes sometimes doesn’t solve the problem that they set out to solve. They reframe it in a new way that is more solvable or more satisfactorily solvable. Part of the creative act, especially in the field of design, is not to take the problem or objective as a given but to see as something that is subject to reframing and redefinition. A classic, elegant design solution is something that reframes the problem, solves the reframed problem, and in the process which also solves the original problem. You start out thinking the problem and objective were defined in a certain way and often this is where in the field of design a lot of user research comes in.”

Clearly, approaching a creative act with a design attitude involves not having all the answers, sometimes not even knowing the questions to begin with. For leaders with an orientation towards efficiency this is not easy to overcome, Austin explains. “They don’t enjoy not being able to make sense of things. They like to think they have already a good grip on the world. One of the things that’s fundamentally difficult about the arts is that they are continually evolving the meaning of things. In certain kinds of activities, especially if you are a manager who has focused on an industry for a long time, you don’t want to see much evolving at all. You want to see everything under control. When something as major as meaning starts to evolve; that doesn’t look like a good thing. It looks like something that needs to get under control, it runs against your reflexes.” Many artistic reflexes seem run against traditional management reflexes, many practices challenge classical business practices. While Austin does not favor one side over another, he is convinced creativity and innovation require the artful side of things. “An artful leader would probably be much more attuned to the emergent nature of creative acts and the way creative activities need to feed on each other: reactions to reactions to reactions as a way of moving ideas. They would be much more open to differences of perspectives because creative acts see things in different ways and are able to create something truly original. A second part is that once you’ve created something original and valuable, to recognize that that’s what you’ve done. That is something businesses have a lot of trouble with. Sometimes they create something new and quite valuable but their habitual procedures, practices and mindsets keep them from seeing the value. It is a very common pattern in business that companies that invent things are not the ones which eventually make that into a business. They are too busy in a different kind of businesses; it’s a pattern that repeats again and again. […] Another thing is that an open realization, that variation is at the heart of innovation and creativity, whereas it is the thing to be discouraged in a more industrial process. Randomness is a bad thing if you’re in an exploitation mode, but it’s an absolute requirement if you’re in an exploration mode.  Companies have all sorts of systems that try to minimize variation in their processes, all of which work against creative and artful processes. Often in a creative activity you are making judgments about esthetic quality of a thing versus their practicality. In a design firm a limitation might be a certain budget of a number of hours for a certain activity. If we go beyond this number of hours we start to lose money, it would be an unprofitable job, if we go too far beyond the budget. That is one set of pressures. Another set of pressures might be, we’re at the budgeted amount that we expected to spend on this but we don’t have a solution that we think is satisfactory, of a sufficient esthetic quality. A designer’s inclination is to work beyond that boundary. A business manager’s inclination is to say, ‘no, we have to restrict the budget because the job needs to be profitable.’ One thing we see in creative companies is that the managers are sometimes willing to go beyond those boundaries because they see it as an investment in future reputation, in creation of creative capabilities that they will get to reuse, and even creation of ideas that would come back in other products or work with other clients. I guess it boils down to an inclination to set aside the classic cost minimization or profit maximization reflexes, for a lot of reasons: to create new capabilities, to keep the creative people happy because they don’t want to do only profitable jobs, they want to do interesting jobs. One of the things we see in a lot of creative companies is that they will engage in projects that they know are not very lucrative or profitable, even going in, but these projects might be very interesting or stretch the creative capabilities in an interesting way.  These companies talk about it in very practical terms: ‘we do this one and it’s going to be fun but the next job we take has to be one where we pay the bills’, Austin exemplifies. “There is that balancing act that a lot of creative companies engage in.” When listening to Austin, it becomes clear that the balance he is describing is not aiming at keeping the balance at all times but allowing a company to achieve it by also going through various conditions. “

I see another thing which is part of the paper we just written. The company we were studying there is having the right number of crisis in a year. When they have too many crises it is too disruptive, if they have too few crises then they are not poking their process enough. That’s really not much like someone running a factory would think. The optimal number of crisis in a factory is zero. Those are just a few things and there are probably a lot of them, tolerance for ambiguity, and a capacity in a leader to help the people who work for them to tolerate ambiguity, in an important characteristic. To tolerate the fact that in a creative act you necessarily don’t know where you are going and that can be uncomfortable.”

Austin realizes learning from art for better outcomes in business and society is a topic of great promise and  significance but he is also realistic enough to understand it is not an easy task to convince traditional leaders. “We have more than 150 years of industrial thinking to overcome. The problem is always, when you are proposing new things and thinking in new categories and naming categories with different terminology, that terminology in that world lives at a disadvantage to the much more established terminology that’s all been settled. Anything truly new is at first unfamiliar and therefore kind of uncomfortable and therefore without respectability and meaning for a while.” But Austin is also full of hope due to the simultaneousness of many initiatives in the field. “We all use slightly different terminology, but I have the feeling that we are talking about the same kinds of things.”

Please access the complete interview here.

Transcript: Eugen Buss, Stephanie Barnes
Blog: Dirk Dobiéy, Adina Asbeck
Picture Source: Rob Austin

Alexa Sirbu Beneath the Waves

Where Ideas Come from and how Creativity can Improve our Wellbeing: Our links of the Month

Adina Asbeck Education, News Leave a Comment

For this months edition we found some articles in the world wide web, about creativity and the ability of learning with, and from it.

Starting with the youngest age, read an article the Guardian has published about children’s “natural creativity and curiosity” and how it is being destroyed by our so called modern school systems. “In the future, if you want a job, you must be as unlike a machine as possible: creative, critical and socially skilled. So why are children being taught to behave like machines?” The full article is written by George Monbiot.

The next unit takes a closer look on artists and their pressure to create an own handwriting at a very young age. “These days the pressure is on young artists to come up with a singular look while they are still in college.” But we believe, that creativity cannot be something that ends at a certain age or can be forced on someone. We never stop learning. Laura Cummings article “The Seven Ages of an Artist”  again was published by the Guardian.

The Atlantic did an animated video we want to share with you on the flow of creativity. Based on the words of filmmaker David Lynch, this animation gives a possible answer to the question of  “Where great ideas come from?”.  Watch the short movie by Jackie Lay, Katherine Wells and Jennie Rothenberg Gritz.

Talking about animations, Pixar is now offering free online lessons in storytelling in partnership with online education provider Khan Academy. “The first lesson is available now, and will provide an introduction to storytelling as well as help you hone your initial creation of things like setting and character. The lessons include both videos and activities for students to complete, and provides a general basis on which to build.” The full article is written by Darrell Etherington and published by TechCrunch. Go on and access your first lesson.

Last but certainly not least we want to follow up on the topic of the influence of creativity and how it can not only help us learning and creating, but even improve our wellbeing. Once again the Guardian published a piece on the initiative, of the Springfield University hospital in London, to integrate donated art pieces into their building. “Will, a resident on the Phoenix ward, who is in his 20s and a keen artist himself, says of his new environment: “I like everything about it. It makes me feel good. It’s calmed the place down and the colours are more cool. It was a privilege to work with such talented people.””

Beneath the Waves

Photo credit: Alexa Sirbu. The artist’s work was inspired by jellyfish.




Sharon Molloy

Keeping an Open Mind: Interview with Artist Sharon Molloy

Adina Asbeck Interview, News Leave a Comment

“When I think about artistic attitude the first thing that comes to my mind is to be open,” says Sharon Molloy, professional artist. She was born and raised in the U.K. but started travelling when she went to art school near London, at the Winchester School of Art. It was from that point onwards that she would expand her world and learn the importance of keeping an open mind. We interviewed Sharon Molloy to understand how her creative process is informed by science and process and to learn how things she has learned in her creative practice can be incorporated into the activities undertaken by organizations. Keeping an open mind and being curious has helped her to learn and experience new things as she has travelled the world. She recognizes that being curious is what is important in learning, innovating, and evolving her art practice, “I always felt that impelling curiosity. If I hear something new I want to know everything about it instantly.”

Small Square Green Web

Ms. Molloy states, “there are no finished states, really. Those separated moments don’t exist…we humans think that something starts and ends so we can reuse the output.” When in fact, everything keeps going and evolving we keep learning, “I have evolved some practices…because I’m open minded and playful. Curiosity makes me compassionate as an artist and for my life in general. When I am able to awaken the interest and interaction with non-artists, I couldn’t wish for more,” Ms Molloy enthuses. She sees her role as bringing a different perspective to people who don’t usually have contact with the kind of art she makes (Networkism) and during the interview related an anecdote about some dentists she had the opportunity to interact with at an exhibition. And they recognized that they (the dentists) were a network, like her paintings depict.

Ms Molloy enjoys learning and discovering new things. She says she was interested in science and processes at school, but had to decide between those subjects and her art, choosing art but recognizing that there is much in common between the two. Both have curiosity and the desire to know something at their heart. She says, “sometimes my work has been included in magazines the look at art and mathematics or art and science. There are moments I feel more like a scientist and my studio resembles an experimental workshop.” Ms Molloy believes that organizations have lost their way, focusing too much on profit, and not on “customers, society, or the environment. I think something is missing there,” she says. Further explaining that, “we should be aware that everything we use or do as individuals has an impact in a much bigger context.” It is this sense of purpose that helps drive her in her creative process and keeps her asking questions.

Ms Molloy believes that art transcends language, that “with visual art you can experience something which transcends language. You can express things that are separated and connected at the same time. You can see all the paradoxes.” She asserts we need more of this, not less in the world we live in, if we are going to survive as a species and appreciate the privilege we have of living on this planet, in this vast universe.

Please access the full interview here.


Blue Web

Interview by Dirk Dobiey
Blog by Stephanie Barnes
Blog Translation by Adina Asbeck
Transcription by Eugen Buss
Picture Source: Sharon Molloy

Laura Kuch

Fehler als kreatives Prinzip: Interview mit Laura Kuch auf Deutschlandradio Kultur

Dirk Dobiéy Education, News, Uncategorized Leave a Comment

Den falschen Film für den Oscar nominiert? Sicher ein Fehler aber nicht so schlimm meint die Künstlerin und Age of Artists Mitglied Laura Kuch im Interview mit Deutschlandradio Kultur. „Man könnte aber auch aus einer ganz anderen Perspektive da mal draufschauen und könnte sagen, da ist ja was ganz Ungewöhnliches, was ganz Überraschendes passiert, etwas, was in Erinnerung bleibt und sich eben auch abhebt von dem sonst so perfekten oder makellosen Ablauf in so einer Oscar-Verleihung.“ Allenfalls ein Schlamassel also. Vielleicht etwas größer als die sympathische Tatsache, dass Laura Kuch’s Interview-Partner Julius Stucke in der Einführung zum Thema Fehler den Oscar mit dem Grammy verwechselt.

Es kommt eben darauf an wie man damit umgeht und was man daraus macht. “Ein Ereignis das geschah,” meinte der Musiker Herbie Hancock über die Reaktion von Miles Davis auf etwas das Hancock selbst bei einem gemeinsamen Konzert gründlich misslang. Dabei führte Hancock’s Erlebnis nicht dazu ab diesem Zeitpunkt immer falsch zu spielen, sondern wie Laura Kuch meint, eine Aufmerksamkeit dafür zu entwicklen, dass Fehler möglich sind und mitunter auch produktives Potenzial in sich tragen. Dabei stellt Laura Kuch klar, dass dies “kein Aufruf zur Unachtsamkeit oder willkürlichem Handeln sein soll. Aber zum einen, Fehler zu machen, ist ja ein Element, das uns durch dieses Menschlichsein alle verbindet.” Für Laura Kuch geht es darum, “auch diese Aufmerksamkeit dafür zu entwickeln. Im künstlerischen Schaffensprozess sind Fehler integraler Teil von diesem gestaltenden Prozess, der auch immer ein offener Prozess ist.”

“Ich gebe Ihnen mal ein Beispiel aus meinen Seminaren: dass die Teilnehmer zum Beispiel am Anfang die Augen schließen und sich den perfekten geometrischen Kreis vorstellen. Und wen sie den dann meinen, so klar vor ihrem inneren Auge zu sehen, dann öffnen sie die Augen wieder und zeichnen diesen Kreis mit schwarzer Tusche auf einem leeren Blatt Papier nach. Was da natürlich herauskommt, sind natürlich nicht eine Vielzahl an perfekten geometrischen Kreisen, das wäre ja auch todlangweilig. Stattdessen haben wir viele ganz einzigartige Kreise, von denen jeder was ganz Besonderes hat.

Lesen oder hören Sie das vollständige Interview mit Laura Kuch hier und erfahren mehr über das Seminarangebot von dem sie im Interview spricht.

Sebastian Heiner

To Act out Oneself – An Interview with Painter Sebastian Heiner

Adina Asbeck Insights, Interview Leave a Comment

Born in Berlin, Sebastian Heiner studied at the UdK (Universität der Künste) in his home town. Normally he works and lives in Berlin, where he shares an atelier with the artist Jörn Grothkopp. The Berliner told us as well, that his painting is influenced a lot by his temporary employment abroad. Over several years he held ateliers in Beijing, Shanghai and Bangkok. “I think, a lot broke loose inside of me while I was staying abroad. Before, I had the feeling that my painting got stuck in some kind of way. But the shock of the metropolis, the shock of the alien, highly opened myself up. I could return to colours, began to scratch inside of it and tried to find traces. (…) But also to be exposed to a completely different cultural context, I sensed as very fundamental and worth discovering for me. In a manner of speaking, I could find myself inside of the exceptional circumstances: inside of the foreign parts, far away from my cultural identity. I was able to return to myself – and was struck by this contradiction: To leave, to come back.” His devotion and examination of the Asian culture is significant and can be seen in his work. His paintings stand-out because of their abstract colouring and their graphic representation.

Indian Dance

#1 The perception of the artist

“With both of us artists it’s mainly about perception. We talk a lot about what reality really is. We observe the world differently and try to identify how the other one sees it, how we differ from one another and where we meet again. For sure we meet within the steady challenge of our own position. For both it’s about the process of creating. The process, for us, is much more important than the outcome, the journey is the reward. It’s about the various options of the appearance of a painting, given that it’s beautiful, how diverse our variations are. We love the exchange, also with other people, and I consider it to be crucially important. It helps staying loose, to not freeze yourself and to keep the doors open.”

#2 The stage of the artist

“My domain of painting I seize as a stage. If I change, I try to cut myself out and to focus on my work. I leave the routine and pass the border into chaos, where I don’t possess anything but myself. The clothes are the skin, the stage is the screen. Then it’s about the design: I work quite physically. Sometimes I squeeze out the tubes on the floor, so that I first offer a ground of colours. Other Times I reach in with my hand to then directly smudge the colours with my body on the canvas. Or I take cardboard, dip it in colour and pull it over the linen. It has to be fast, direct and spontaneous. In that context I’m thinking about the work with China ink in Asia and that you have to concentrate to pick the right moment to do the right thing. This moment is the accuracy inside of the chaos.  One has to follow his intuition. It may also happen that I created a composition I really like – besides a tiny moment, that brings down the whole system. It’s a series of reactions. The picture, that seems to appear randomly, eventually is always considered a system of elements. These elements have to experience some kind of order. The exemption might be illusory, because you always have certain modules and pieces available. Me, I have a particular movement I perform over and over again with my arm, without noticing. A specific repertoire is in some ways restrictive, too. Of course I can create lots of variations out of my repertoire, but still my great fear is the development of automatisms and a routine. In contrast I have to fight against it repeatedly, that’s why I change the main colour or the size and have to step back. Everyone has their own style: even the physical and psychic structure defines the elements one is provided with. It’s not about changing the repertoire of elements, at the most to widen it to its maximum. The dangers for creativity are the routine and the uniformity.”

Action at Work

#3 The working process of the artist

“It gets interesting when there is no concrete idea. It challenges me to always start at zero. That means not to have any deadlocked idea, or to have a ready-made opinion, but to act out of the moment and coincidence to then see that there will always arise a similar line. That way one cannot even act different than on his own terms. One leaves quite a lot behind, until he can only be what he is. My motivation exists out of the goal to not let anyone press me into one scheme, that’s why I even change the size of my canvas. So I also question myself technically. It’s a recurring question, which results out of a certain insecurity. I have to try something new again to challenge myself.”

“If mistakes occur, the worst case scenario is that I have to start a new painting. It might even be sorted out or I paint over it, which should only happen to a certain extent, because the freshness and immediacy otherwise get lost. Sometimes I mistrust the fast outcome, you always have to be on the watch, to always question yourself critically and to always be concentrated while doing so. I’m a huge fan of pragmatism. Maybe it’s because of the fear of chaos and the loss of control. It’s about keeping a balance between the disorder and a sorted, practically oriented world and tolerating this tension. The live is a subject to a messy principle, but there has to be some kind of order, otherwise the chaos would be destructive. It’s a dialectic assumption of the world out of two opposites, to create something and to question the creation afterwards again.”

#4 The rules of the artist

“It’s important to go step by step and to make decisions. To limit the dynamic of the chaos, you have to try to contain the things rationally, until you get to a result. I try to grasp the dynamic of the chaos within a small moment, like in chess. The chessboard is liable to the chaos and you try to rule over it. Therefore you need courage, because maybe you can’t control the entities even if you try. The risk of failing always exists. Yet it can be a struggle for existence, because you are a freelancer and you have to make your own rules day-in, day-out, even if you can’t enforce anything. You have to cultivate and renew your network and contacts all the time. It’s a current tension, because you are pressured forever with improvisation. Every day is new. There is never a guarantee for anything, but all of that can be very attractive as well. The resonance and the acknowledgement are essential. Within pure isolation you cannot create anything and that’s why you have to maintain the exchange. Otherwise the man folds.”

#5 What business can learn from artists

“From the process of the permanent self-renewal and the not standing still. That you keep having the courage to search for solutions and solve problems and to stay agile and open minded along the way. That they realise, that there is no security, only consistently new moments. That you do teamwork and communicate with your partner, so that you don’t achieve the things for yourself but together. That they believe in themselves and in one another. The belief in yourself is the strongest impulse to be able to find solutions. There is always an answer, even if it’s different from what you expected. Sometimes the answer doesn’t have a solution. I think, everyone can experience more: No matter if president, cashier, or professor. It’s about everyone displaying the things within his own possibilities and abilities and therefore brings out the best in himself. Meanwhile you should stay human and believe in the inventive quality even if there is not much tolerance. It’s about cultivating the positive, human skills: compassion, sympathy, exchange, help, etc., everyone can achieve that. Basically the economy wants to develop and to push something, those are basic elements of human action. You want to earn something and to create an additional benefit, that’s why there has to be a strategy to imply the creative. Without vision you cannot develop any strategy or product. The art is just a symbol for intense, human action. If you want to achieve something, you have to be brave, willing to take risks, curious and have fun. It doesn’t work if you are stubborn and without a certain freedom. There has to be conditions for the creative as well.” Additionally, Sebastian Heiner answered the question if he’s more resistant because of his art: “I think so. But that slowly developed over the years.”


Interview: Dirk Dobiéy, Transcript: Benjamin Stromberg, Blog: Adina Asbeck/Dirk Dobiéy, Editing: Stephanie Barnes
Picture source:  Hans-Georg Gaul (for Sebastian Heiner) except title portrait Age of Artists

Wolf Jeschonnek

“If you only start looking in a niche, the solutions are not so extensive.” – A talk with Wolf Jeschonnek concerning the potential of FabLabs

Benjamin Stromberg Insights, Interview Leave a Comment

Young, dynamic, international are some of the descriptors that instantly come to mind as soon as you enter the FabLab in Berlin: typical Berlin. However, this would not be accurate because Berlin’s FabLab is only three years old, making it even younger than many other FabLabs that are to be found in large cities all over Germany. Most of these FabLabs deal with 3D-printing and Laser technologies,  but for what purpose?

“The focus of the FabLabs lies in the educational and enlightening purpose”, explains Wolf Jeschonnek, founder and manager of the FabLab in Berlin. “I did research about FabLabs and I had the desire to create such a place; a place where I can advance my projects. With the idea to found one I flew to the US and collected impressions of the existing FabLabs. […] The first FabLabs there were founded around 2003. In Germany they came in 2008. This means five years further development that you can highly recognize within the structures and organization of the FabLabs. […] I think the whole ecosystem for innovation culture and structure is more developed over there. Anything that deals with the topic of Maker Faire is clearly more developed. Someone from Maker Faire was even at the White House and presented 3D-Print, so the topic was discussed in a political setting. We are far away from these conditions in Germany.”

And it’s true, we are far away from this in Germany. The FabLabs are about providing modern machines and materials which will be the basis of technologically advanced societies in the future. This is why the FabLab primarily attracts people from the IT and MINT area. However, there are remarkable exceptions to this general rule, “Although there are not as many people from other areas, for example there are not more than ten percent artists, I consider it as diverse enough, because it’s very open and there is no forced connection to a university. All interested people just come and we cannot serve a broader spectrum of the public. We also strive for all ages. The professional depth is supported by professionals who support simple and complex questions. We share our knowledge because it’s the main idea of this place”, Wolf tells us. “We want to be considered as the intersection between people who invent technology and people who use it. The difference is whether you are a normal user of the technology or you become creative looking beyond the surface. The important objective is to design technology more transparent in its basics. This is why such a place exists.”

Right here one can find the huge potential of a lively FabLab: a random melting pot of people with different backgrounds, ages, interests, and skills. This is a factor that is ignored or created artificially at corporate business incubators. “Those act in a more goal-oriented and pragmatic fashion so that the potential of innovation is distinct to us. If you only start looking in a niche, the solutions are not so extensive. We are the opposite because we are very broad”, Wolf mentions. But he knows he still owes a proof for the FabLab’s ability to innovate. So far one cannot blame him for lacking that proof. It’s only been three years since the foundation; three years in which Wolf and his team stepped forward into a collaborative and creative future that still is far away for many of us.

You can find the complete Interview with Wolf Jeschonnek here (German only).

Picture Source: FabLab Berlin


Artistic Intelligence: How Art Inspires Innovation

Dirk Dobiéy News, Uncategorized Leave a Comment

SAP’s Alumni Network  has published on their news center as well as on their global intranet an article about Artistic Intelligence: How Art Inspires Innovation.  Author Andrea Schmieden concludes “Age of Artists doesn’t focus on actual works of art, but rather on the artistic approach to producing creative and original results. Put this in business terms and the connection becomes clear: It’s about innovation and how we can evolve our creative potential to deal with new and complex challenges.” Please access the full article here.

Picture Source: Screenshot from SAP News Center